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There are rumours circulating that the new edition of Dogs Today is carrying a damaging article by a vet on why greyhounds should not be pets, but should be regarded as livestock. If anyone sees the piece can they a. if its true bombard the editor with complaints, and b. let me know. I think GAL should have a right of response.
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I've asked someone to try and pick me up a copy of it. If it's true complaints will be made. I'll let you know.

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Greyhounds are lovely dogs. It is such a shame when damaging articles are written.

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Apparently the editor of the magazine didn't read this column by their vet before it was published and is 'shocked'.
I'm shocked that she is making excuses. The buck stops with the editor of any publication! Daft *"@!!
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Has anybody seen the article???

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If you go onto the Refuge forum you will see the article in the doggie chat section.
Unfortunately I can't cut and paste it.
Basically the vet had a bad experience after a small dog came in who had been attacked by two ex-racing greyhounds and died.
Initially she seems to be asking valid questions, unfortunately she then goes on to suggest that all ex-racers should be euthanised at the end of their racing lives since they have 'murderous intentions' and are more likely to kill other dogs.
Basically she is saying, we can't get rid of racing so lets make sure all racing dogs are killed instead, ie the breed disappears.
Haven't heard that argument used about other breeds linked to attacks on people!
Here's a section verbatim "if racing greyhounds are bred solely for racing then wouldn't it be more sensible to regard them as beef cow or sheep. We (the carnivorous among us) accept that at the end of their 'working life' such animals are humanely destroyed. If we accept that animals have no fear of death or anticipation of it then humane euthanasia at any age or state of health can be acceptable".
She goes on to say "If it is true that greyhounds kill many more animals than other dogs then this fact is unacceptable".
Its an astonishing view and I am appalled.If you are going to take that approach then what about the breeds involved in attacks on humans?
Marie

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This is shocking Marie thanks for bringing it to our attention I will be getting the Dog World on Friday and will see if it mentions anything about it there. What is the vet thinking about I thought they were supposed to be impartial but because of one incident she classes all greys they same. confused Nora 

-- Edited by max at 22:05, 2008-04-01

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Am fizzing here. We MUST make ahuge fuss over this.

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What an absolute A@#;#';#,mass protest needed,this vet should not be writing in a pet magazine,next, lets all bombard the BVA the breed has a hard enough time as it is,has this stupid idiot of a woman ever been near an abattoir when animals are being slaughtered they know the smell of death,how many harmless dogs cats and other pets does she kill every week because owners are fed up of them or don't want to pay for them to be treated,does she kill them rather than talk owners into passing pets on to rescue services,she needs to be made to retract her statement,f#';#'; help anyone who takes a sick grey to her,she must have a field day reccomending they be killed when maybe they could be saved,I for one would love to find out where she practices so I can tell her exactly how I feel.Sorry,rant over for now but I'm not for letting this go.furious.giffurious.giffurious.giffurious.gif

p.s. I have murderous intentions just now.

Rachel.


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Having spent 5 minutes in WH Smith today reading the article ( I certainly wasn't buying it ) I can't believe that the person who wrote it is actually a vet who is supposed to help animals. She should be struck off. If it was a practice I was taking Maddie to I would be protesting outside it. Stupid ignoramous.

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OK here is a copy of the article and some info on the storm that this has caused.





Please forward to as many people as possible and ask them to write a letter of protest to the editor:

Doggie Postbag
Dogs Today
Town Mill
Bagshot Road
Chobham
Surrey
GU24 8BZ
enquiries@dogstodaymagazine.co.uk

In your complaint I would quote sections of the article as the editor is complaining that lots of the people sending complaints haven't even read the article.

The editors comments on the article can be found on her blog at http://www.coldwetnose.blogspot.com/

The 'vet' who wrote the article also has a web page and is now trying to wriggle out of it in her comments on there. http://www.emmathevet.co.uk/

Victoria Stilwell has also commented on this article in her blog http://www.victoriastilwell.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1346&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

-- Edited by silverhippo at 15:49, 2008-04-03

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The odd thing is that she hasn't mentioned the responsibilities of any dog owners to maintain proper control of their dog - just straight to blaming the breed. Very ill judged, I'd say and surprising from someone who's had a media career for a while (it's one of the former trainee vets that were filmed for years). Given her media popularity and her wholesome knowledgeable appearance, I worry that she will just be believed by the ignorant. A balancing response from a Greyhound awareness organisation is called for, I'd say.
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that article made my blood boil! furious.gif i would sincerly hope there would be some kind of retraction or a more balanced view point put forward in any future publications. what a stupid woman!

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I'm past anger and into despair! How could anyone in that profession write such a thing? Why did she become a Vet in the first place? I dread to think the damage she's done - some people will believe anything, particularly from some sort of "TV Personality" (not that I ever recall seeing programme/her). Hopefully, many people will desert her practice. Think "Dogs Today" would be mad not to sack her if they want to maintain any sort of credibility!

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HER HUSBAND WAS MY RUFUS, HENRY, DASHA, STUMPY and my cat CALLIES's Vet. Am furiouse. his practice deals with ALL the RSPCA animals in York, they deal with over and over again the grey and lurchers thrown aside by the racing industry and gypsy camps in that area, hundreds. Am feeling sick hje may try to wriggle out of it but although Minster vets deal with all the RSPCA animals, they get paid for it, that and her "celebrity" status keep her and her "precious" dogs in luxury. The same dogs she goes on and on about in her columns. Neither of whioch by the way are greys.

Am spitting blood, will writing to Minster vets, who is her husbands practice, the biggest in York and don't think she works there but will find out where.

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This girl has got above herself and put her own thoughts nad opinions in a meduim where they are able to influemce people. She was the posh stuck up one in Vets in Practice a while back

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Am so angry I cant spell obviously hee hee

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When searching for article came across info. that she is divorced and worked at Vets on the Park in Cheltenham, but that could very well be out-of-date stuff.

Denise

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I'm not surptised she's divorced, she was a self-righteous killjoy on the tv. It must be hard for her going through life always being right, self-opinionated witch that she is.furious
Does she own a dog? all carnivores kill to survive and are therefore predisposed to knocking off a fellow animal for supper. HELLO, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE, life is not all sweetness and loveweirdfaceTo demonise one breed is to cast a shadow over all pets, lets face it, we could survive without pets, it wouldn't be a nice world, but we could survive. I'm not sure how well the vets would survive if we didn't keep animals unless they were vital to our existancehmm
The dogs in the picture look nice and quiet, but who's to say a littermate of theirs isn't partial to the odd bit cat chasing, would Emma shoot the whole population of croosbreeds because one or two have natural instincts that surface now and again.

STUPID STUPID BINT, gives all woman a bad namefurious

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This has to be addressed, it can't be left to lie. It undoes all the hard wotk GAL and other rescues have been doing to promote greys as pets, this is very popular magazine, it WILL cost greys homes, make no mistake. It is a vicious attack after a very bad day made on very public forum, both her and that editor are equally to blame.

She was married to some guy that was on vets in practice thing with her, they divorced and is married to one of the main vets in york and works in the main practice there, as I said before who deal with and get paid for all the greys and lurchers that go through the RSPCA. Iknow where she works and urge that you write to her practice. And to Dogs Today urging them to rectify the damage they have done to these dogs. The magazine may very well do this on a big scale.

if you haven't read it properly do so, as she is bleating on about backlash when people haven't read the article, it is worse than I thought. To stop breeding greys is fine as I am sure we would all agree with but to eauthanise tham at the end of their careers due to their "murderous instinct" is unbelievable and to say how many more squirrels, rabbits cats and dogs will be killed by greyhounds as she is wrapping up is nasty in the extreme. She has no facts she is talking about 2 cases which even just highighting them in her article would've done enough damage but to go further as she does is disgusting. Do not let them get away with this, make them make amends for their actions both these women. They can fix this

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I am beyond angry about this article. I have a few pointers for anyone wanting to kick off. Dogs Today is independtly owned by the editor Beverley so there is no way of making her accountable beyond venting your anger.
What you can do, however, is contact the national press - The Times comes to mind - and express your anger that a former 'celebrity vet' - she was at one point tabloid fodder - has made these allegations. Mention when you do that Victoria Stidwell has come out against it and lead them to the angry websites.
Send your emails to the tabloids as well, as a former celeb she is possibly newsworthy and they might just react!
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Marie on my rant on Greyhound Pals, or the Scottish Greyhound Sanctuary now, I mentioned going to the press, and it was pointed out to me that this may cause more damage than it's worth as it may bring to the attention of even more of the general public, the "attack" side of the issue, and if the press agree with her it would look very bad. Also we can't trust the press not to make us look like a bunch of animal rights nutters as they do to so many others. I am writing to her and the editor, if you want her works address pm me, I think you should send it to them as even if she doesn't read it both her and boss and colleagues will see the amount of trouble she has caused. I am extremely outraged at her so called apology, she is only sorry about the trouble she is in and the fall out of that is her book sales etc. WE must write it's our only weapon.


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Please, everyone, do NOT contact the press. However sympathetic the story is, half the people reading it will take away the message that "vet says greyhounds are dangerous and must be destroyed". We do not need that kind of publicity.

Cheers,
Graham

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Totally agree. Think the only time to do that would be if story gets there anyway and so a need to try to counter any resulting bad publicity for the dogs.

Denise

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I'm appalled at this article. I'm more appalled that it comes from a vet. I'd be very scared to take any dog to her practice with her 'free and easy' attitude to euthanasia.

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grahamrobinson wrote:

Please, everyone, do NOT contact the press. However sympathetic the story is, half the people reading it will take away the message that "vet says greyhounds are dangerous and must be destroyed". We do not need that kind of publicity.

Cheers,
Graham






Fair points, its just frustrating that this is an independent magazine and therefore there is no larger authority to complain too.


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If you go on to the coldwetnose,blogspot you'll see response from editor re. next issue which will apparently be very pro. rescue greyhounds. No mention of what might happen re. Emma Milne column though.

Denise

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It is always the case when it comes to dogs killing another dog that someone of "some authority" makes a blanket statement that that breed should no longer be around. (I have seen cases of vets trying to extinct rottweilers, staffies and even boxers!) It is so wrong but as mentioned above - sometimes ranting back can actually make it worse for the charties.

The committee has discussed about sending a letter stating our views on the article in a professional manner. Not actually very intense but at least we will have done our part showing we are a valid charity that thinks all dogs deserve to live - regardless of what one dog may have done. If this was a case of a person - do we destroy every person that matches that description.

I will update everyone once we sort out a letter and see what else happens in the next few weeks! It's just so sad to see how negative comments can cause such a stir when positive reports go unnoticed!



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I think this girl underestimated the passion greyhound owners have for their dogs, and the cause.

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Having been asked on occasions to speak to the press about GAL it's work our involvement etc.we have always found that they never use anything we discuss with them because it's not considered bad or scandalous enough,so I think a sensible letter to the magazine and a letter of complaint to the BVA and a calm response to the vet herself,pointing out the virtues of the breed is a better way to go,don't give the scandal sheets fuel for their fire.We all know that good stories don't sell papers only dirt and defamation do.hmm.gif

Rachel.

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