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Right. My brain is mush thinking about this...already got 1 delightful Grey, hankering desperately after another (flat is big enuff, heart is big enuff, have enuff time to spoil/walk them etc etc)

Id now like to open the debate to the floor....am I totally mad or should I go for it?

What have been your experiences?

"why are they so bloomin addictive?"

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Hi Suzanne!


We had Freddy for just over a year when we got Wilma.  I was initially concerned about extra costs, space, etc - you know, the usual!  Within a very short space of time we had forgotten what it was like with only one dog!  I also felt less guilty about leaving Freddy alone - I knew he had some company. 


I would say if you can afford it and you have the space and time then go for a second dog BUT don't let anyone try to emotionally blackmail you into it!  Only you know your reasons for wanting a second dog - stick to your guns, and if you decide not to have another then don't feel guilty and don't let anyone else make you feel that way.  I know a lot will say "an only hound is a lonely hound" but it's not true!  If your dog is very much loved he might not necessarily appreciate another dog taking his mum away ......


Just something for you to think about.



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Suzanne, If you have enough time, enough space, and the "cravings"( I think that word really describes the need for another hound) then I would go for it, we now have three dogs (that is our limit) and love them all dearly, I really dont think that if we had got another breed for our first dog we would have ended up with three,( grey's and lurchers really are addictive!)  In my experience two dogs are not any more work than one ( although walking them at first was an entangling experiance!!) When we first met GAL members we were told "God gave you a pair of hands to hold a pair of Greys!"  your graving will not go away, indulge yourself!

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Hi, Suzanne

For all my kidding you about Sweet (and I really am just kidding, honest!), I understand how you're feeling. Dave will tell you that Steve and I have been plaguing him for yonks about getting number 2, and he told us that it's often the hardest part of rescue. For me, quite honestly, it's a scary thought. Pearly is so good and we're in such a routine that it's very much a thought that the tidy applecart might be upset. The first week that we had her was awful - she and I spent most of it crying! But, forewarned is forearmed and we'll know what to expect the next time.

I keep seeing pics of happy hounds together and think that Pearly would love a friend. She's a funny one, cos sometimes she can meet other dogs and not give two hoots; next time, she's bouncing and play-bowing like a daftie. Suppose that just shows that the right combination is, well, the right combination. Hopefully, we'll have that one day, and maybe in the not-too-distant future.

For us, it's a case of "when", rather than "if". So I'll be watching this thread with loads and loads of interest myself..........

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Hi Suzanne,


I'm of the opinion, in for a penny, in for a pound.  As you know, I've got two and live in a flat so space wise, it can be done, and as for walking, well you already do that anyway.


I have found though that when we're out of the flat, we have to keep Eilidh and Luca separate at the moment.  With her being a pup it's all fun, fun, fun and we were coming home to a bomb site where they had been going daft, throwing cushions about, running into water bowls etc.  Luca even got his ear torn in one of their carry-ons one day.  We keep a dog gate at the top of the hall now and, although they see each other and know the other's there, they don't mix, but seem quite happy.  When she's a bit older and a bit wiser, we'll leave them together again.


Remember that introducing a second dog to your home isn't always easy.  Luca and Eilidh really hated each other at first when Eilidh came. She tried to dominate him, which really put his nose out of joint for a couple of weeks and he took the hump at us for bringing this wild puppy into the house.  We had to be very careful with them at first.  As soon as we built up Eilidh's trust in us and were confident that she would come back to us we let them off the lead together.  Once they had a good run about together a few times they became the best of pals and are now totally inseparable (see their photos in success stories under L).


It was tough for us, especially with the wee one being slightly on the bonkers side, but we stuck it out and, to be honest, I think it has been one of the most rewarding things I have ever done.  Eilidh is a completely different dog now and I think that it was being with Luca that helped get her there and we wouldn't be without either of them now.


If my flat was big enough, I'd be going for my third!


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Hi Suzanne, if you haven't heard my 'catchphrase' yet then here it is...''you only really notice the difference after the seventh..''


Seriously, as Fiona says homing a second dog to someone is MUCH harder than homing the first, and if Fiona doesn't mind I might even 'borrow' her 'tidy applecart' phrase. I've homed (and then had bouncing) a couple of 'second' dogs over the last year or so, the problem has always been that the second dog comes into the home and the nice little routine built up by owner and first dog goes totally out of the window whilst everyone adjusts to the new arrival.


First dog can sometimes get a wee bit upset at all the attention the second dog gets and suddenly first dog isn't the bouncy happy dog it was last week.....anyways think about it carefully and sensibly and if you do want to 'borrow' a potential candidate for a few days see how it goes you know who to call!!  



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Hi Suzanne


I know how you feel exactly. I would love to get a companion for Mandy (think that Jacky or Oscar could be her type of guy) but would hate to make a huge mistake. My dad takes Mandy out during the day while we're at work and I don't think he could handle two dogs. But it would be nice for Mandy to have company during the day and someone to tear after round the local park! 


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thanks so far for all the replies - keep em coming - def want to hear both sides of the story...this, as with Fiona is not a matter of 'if' but a matter of 'when' - be that in 3 mths time or 2yrs time...

I will def put a massive amount of thought into this & not be carried away on the fluffy, lets get Murph a playmate...as Im hoping Ill hear/have heard on this thread Im sure its most def not a fluffy ride!!

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Hi Suzanne


Like you, I'd love to have a companion for Vegas. My main worry is how having another dog sharing attention with him would affect him. We fostered a lovely dog called Barney for a week last year and at first Vegas was so jealous - we had to give Vegas his food first, and he got the pick of the three beds we'd made up in the living room for them, but he still made it difficult for Barney to settle in any of the other two. A real dog in the manger, you'd say! By the end of the week, they had sorted each other out. They were running in the park together - well, Barney sort of galumphed (he had a problem with his back legs) and it was heartwarming to watch him try to catch up with Vegas. We were truly sorry to see him go, but delighted too as he went to a fantastic home!


I suppose what I'm saying is that the dogs sort themselves out - Murphy and you just have to find the companion who suits both of you. Good luck with your decision!


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Right where to start..................?


Firstly, you probably need to know that I'm married to greyflintstone.  I wasn't for having one dog and some sneaky manipulative GAL volunteer (you know who you are.....!) asked me to "hold" Freddy for a minute on my first visit to Bothwell Bridge.  Within minutes, he was mine!  No-one else got to hold him..........!  Then came the "can't we have another one" question.  I was adament that it was a NO! but decided to humour Sharon.  We got in touch with Dave and went to meet Wilma (who was then Snowy).  One set of matching paw prints on my shoulders (I'm 5'11") and we had 2..............


We are now looking at the possibility of number 3........ though I'm not sure, even though it was my idea.......!  I know number three is likely - just need to decide where he / she can sleep.


Freddy and Wilma hit it off straight away and the kids were just as keen as we were. Wilma is now Andrew's (the oldest at 7) dog.  The admiration is mutual.  Toby (the younger at 5) isn't overly bothered unless the dogs get in the way of the TV or sleep on the "road" where his cars are driving (which is the rug in front of the window where the sun sits all day (can you guess where the dogs spend most of the day...........)


The additional cost is negligible, unless you get a dog who is intollerant to all but the most expensive dog food.... but even then, it's not that expensive.  Being anal retentive when it comes to number (no comments greyflinstone!) I worked out how much it costs to feed our two for a day/week/month/year, and it hardly broke the bank.


Advice for you Suzanne...........?  From someone who was adamant that he wasn't having a dog, had one, then two and is now looking at number 3, I'd say "an only hound is a lonely hound".  Seriously, though...not a lot of extra cost, already walking one, they don't take up that much room......  but you already know all that.  If you feel it's the right time for a second, why not foster.  The other thing to do is make sure the two dogs meet beforehand away from your house - probably better all around in neutral territory.  That was our experience and have had no real problems.


Anyway enough of me! Hope this helps you a bit.


 


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Go for it Suzanne. As a cat person I had no intention of having a dog but when Zelda found her way into our home I was truly smitten. 3 years later we heard about Andie via a radio appeal and I, like you, swithered over the pros and cons. You will never regret it. Zelda is more settled,has a playmate for the garden, eats better and has canine company (as well as feline) if we all have to go out. Life is good. I would go for number three but our old cat would probably pack her bags.....shes done well taking 2 dogs, 2 cats and 7 stick insects onto her territory and at 11 years of age I don't want to push it!!!  

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Hi Suzanne


We were the same as you do we take a second one or not & my biggest concern was getting another one as good as Dinah because my son is 4 & I was wary that we would not get another one as good as her, but when we went to the summer show last year Denise shouted over her mike "Dinah's mum will not leave here today without another dog" & I never, we brought Noah home & he has been great, we took him a wander round at Devon that day with Dinah & the two of them got on great & Ross was with me & he took to him aswell, Glenda & Dave told me to take him for the week & see how he settled in (we were on holiday that week so a perfect opportunity)& we have never looked back.


Good luck, hope to see you with your new addition soon



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Just another thought, if you do decide to take Sweet that would be another blackone off the books!!!!

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We adopted our first greyhound (Ruby) 6 years ago.  Since that time we have adopted/fostered a number of different dogs and currently have 3 - Ruby, Reilly and Rosie.  The last foster dog was Serena - who was anything but "serene" and snapped and growled at all the others.  However, they learned to live and let live but peace eventually reigned and she has now gone to a wonderful new home.


Each time a new dog came into the home, the cats went into hiding and Ruby completely ignored them and us.  The bottom line is, that a new dog means there must be some "storming and norming", but invariably it works out - you just need to grit your teeth, keep your head down, (indulge yourself with some wine of an evening) and before you know it, you and your resident dog, have another "best friend".



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Hi Suzanne, what can I say. I love all of them and they all love each other. Canine company will be good for Murphy. Just go for it.


 


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yikes - lots to ponder over...thanks a million guys. I think my mind is made up....

ps Karen - did no-one tell you "black is this years new brindle"!!

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Hi Suzanne, hope the Easter Bunny brings Murphy something 'sweet'!


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as an Easter treat today Murphy got to meet Sweet & take her for a walk. Both behaved well & werent remotely fussed either way...not necessarily love but she certainly lived up to her name...

Watch this space...

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Hi Suzanne


Glad you & Murphy went to visit Sweet. She looks really lovely. Is she black? photo makes her look brown. She looks quiet and a wee sweetie, is she? Can`t you sort of "borrow" her for a wee while to establish if it`s gonna work out? I realise it means another change of address for Sweet, but maybe this time, it will become her permanent home. I`m sure out of any potential home, you will give her more than a fair chance. Best of luck.


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truth be known Sharon is that I pick her up next Sunday on a 'fostering' basis...really to help relieve some pressure off Dave as he has no spare kennels at the moment for incoming dogs so I reluctanctly said that if it was absolutely necessary I could take Sweet home for a month or so...*hehe - he fell for it too!!*

She is black but has the thickest kennel coat ever so will be out in the back garden every night when I get her being groomed within an inch of her life as Im not a fan of 'the Fuzz' ...black & sleek is how I like them - not big fluff balls :) She is really short - wee stumpy legs & a big barrel of a body - very funny on our walk as she looks like the boy in the relationship - a real stocky John Wayne swagger compared to ikkle delicate ballerina boy Murf. She has SUCH "love me" eyes that won me over - if dogs could speak she would have you in tears with her pleading....You cant say no to that!!!

Clincher came when I tried to put Murf into the car before taking her back to her kennel & she launched herself into the boot, curled up & refused to come out again!! bless...if it wasnt for the course I need to go on next week she'd currently be curled up next to me on the sofa...roll on next Sunday - cant wait to get my hands on her : coat, teeth,nails, etiquette etc- Trinny & Susannah move over...

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ps. suddenly feeling very nervous (but excited)....any top fostering tips out there over & above the whole - let them, within reason, sort out the pecking order....?? cheers guys.



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Hi Suzanne, thanks so much for  very reluctantly agreeing to foster Sweet.....


my advice on Fostering is basically just get on with it, when we get a new dog in we don't make sacrifices for it, we let it find it's own feet, no over pampering, dunno if that sounds cruel but they usually find their own feet, try not to change your routine too much around the new dog, just try to get on with what you usually do...Often when someone gets a second dog all the focus goes to that one so don't forget Murph!!..



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Hi Suzanna


Best of luck in "fostering" Sweet. That's great news. Everything will work out - I know you'll give it your best shot!


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Really pleased for you Suzanne. She sounds funny, i`m sure she willl look more feminine when she looses her kennel coat and you get her looking all nice & shiny. As for fostering tips, from someone who has only fostered once so far - keep smiling and for the times when you feel you can`t cope - a good bottle of wine!


You`ll have to bring her and Murphy down for a visit - i`ll have the wine ready!


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Just looked Sweet up on the GH database under her tattoo markings (L - TMT, R - YS) - her racing name was 'Sperrin Ranger'. She doesnt answer to 'Sweet' at all (kennels named her that a few months ago as she arrived nameless but she still doesnt bat an eyelid to it...). At the age of 4 (Sept 2000 birth) - would she take to another name change?? Was thinking of 'Erin' to keep in with the 'Sperrin' aspect of her racing career as it was (won 4 out of 20)

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Suzanne,


Think a lot of people change their dogs names.  New start, new name and all that. 


Luca's name was Lucky, which he hadn't been, so we picked Luca because it had the same kind of tone when you called it, if you know what I mean. He was 4 when we got him and it hasn't done him any harm.


Like Sweet, Eilidh didn't have a proper name that she responded to.  We chose Eilidh because it means 'noble'.  (Ha ha, if we had only known!)  On the website she was Switch, but Dave had been calling her Puppy mostly.  Think she came to that when Dave called her, but she couldn't be Puppy forever. She picked up her new name really quickly.


Don't think giving her a new name would worry her at all and Erin's lovely.


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Blue's racing name was Drumcrow Blue. He did seem to answer a little to Blue so we stuck with that.

He also answers to a range of other names too......

I think Erin is a lovely name and hope her and Murphy will get on well. He is a lovely boy who could not like him!

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I`d change her name too Suzanne. I can just imagine you shouting "Sweet" across a field - we would all laugh (sorry) Erin is far nicer. I find (when i`m trying to teach puppies their name) if you say the name and they look up at you, reward them with a treat, they very quickly catch on. Have fun trying to get rid of that kennel coat!!


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Hi Suzanne, I'd go for Erin, it's a lovely name, 'Sweet' has only been called that since she arrived at the kennels a few months ago so another name change won't do any harm, before she came to us the trainer called her 'black bitch' yeah very inventive I know, the trainers aren't very good with names, I have one who calls ALL his dogs 'Billy'...

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Male and female, Dave? Sure enough there's Billie Holliday and Billie Jean King. But I agree - trainers don't seem to have any imagination at all. They might as well call all their dogs "Doggy".


Suzanne - Erin's a lovely name and she'll recognise it very quickly! Is today the big day then? Hope everything works out OK.


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