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Having made the decision to foster problem dog Zak I thought that I would keep a diary of progress, the good and the bad. I realise that some of the things that we are trying with Zak would not be what everyone would do and inevitably some of them will be wrong. We can only do our best within the knowledge and experience we have. I know that some of you already know of Zak and have fostered him as well so your input on your experience of him would be welcome.


He has a bit of a background but I am hoping that Dave will fill you in on some of that.


So far we have written up until the weekend, as I still need to write up the notes I made during the weekend into diary entries. More to come…



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Day 1 – Tuesday 2nd August

Today we collected Zak from the Kennels after a very scary drive over (watched a joy rider smash up a car on the motorway). Having chatted for a while, we took Zak and Tara for a bit of a walk to get them acquainted before getting them in the car. Zak initially kept trying to climb over from the boot to the back seat, but stayed where he was when we were on the move.


We stopped off at Pets at Home in Renfrew to pick up some supplies and he was in general better behaved than Tara. She wanted to help herself to all the treats, but who can blame her. We did have a small incident while talking to some people about the dogs where Zak started winding himself up and was about to jump up and cause trouble for Graham, but we spotted the signs and calmed Zak down so it went without incident. We did notice that he is a great advert for GAL as he is very people friendly and people are attracted to his good looks and waggy tail. He and Tara make a good team as people initially come up to see the huge dog, who they could never imagine having, but Zak is the friendlier one and his is a size that people could deal with. Once they are told how cat safe he is, and that no, he doesn’t need loads of exercise they are quite taken with the idea.


Once we got home we let them get to know each other in the garden for a while. This gave us the first indication of potential problems. Tara was quite pushy and chased Zak round the garden a bit scaring him and shoulder charging him into the hedge so we had to intervene and calm them down. There were also a couple of instances where Zak tried the charge straight at us, looking like he was going to have a go, but we just stood our ground and ignored it till he got the idea that it doesn’t work.


We then introduced Zak to the house and he wandered around inspecting things. Having tried out Tara's bed and being stood over till he moved, we showed him his bed and got him to sit on it while we grabbed a late lunch. We then went over to Linlithgow to go to the pet shop for the things we had forgotten earlier. Then we went for a walk at one end of the loch. We kept Zak on the lead as his responses to commands are a bit lacking and we didn't want to lose him or have problems. Tara had a good run around and Zak got to sniff things, though he did really want off the lead.


We got back to the house and let them off in the garden, more of the same agro as earlier but this time Zak was growling and came away with a couple of mouthfuls of her fur. None of it was too serious so we let them get on with it till Zak had a snap and managed to bite his own tongue. At this point we took them in, calmed them down and had a look at Zak. No real harm done. After all the exercise they were exhausted so they just crashed out for a while, with a bit of begging while we had dinner. We then fed the dogs, having to stop Tara from eating Zak's food but without much difficulty. I have never seen her eat so fast or clean the bowl before! She even polished off the rest of Zak's when he left the bowl. I think that letting her do that was a mistake though and in future will pick the bowls up when the dogs leave them.


Having let their tummies settle for a bit we went for a little walk and they both behaved well, which allowed me to try walking both dogs at once. As they had behaved well on the walk they both got rawhide chews when we got back. Zak took his but didn’t know what to do with it so we gave him a pigs ear instead. This was the first sign we saw of real aggression. When Tara walked past he growled at her, a real full on, I am about to bite growl. When I went up to move her, he did the same to me. A little bit of this is fine in a dog but given that Zak has problems in this direction I took the treat off him. Having given him a bit of a timeout I put it in front of him and made him wait till I said go on before he got it back. I then repeated the procedure again later.


Later when Cisco our cat came in Zak was very good, wagging his tail and going to see Cisco, but backing off when Cisco indicated he had had enough. Zak did growl at Tara a couple of times though which I stopped. He also has a bit of a flinch reaction, one of the times when they thought about snapping at each other I stood up and clapped my hands loudly and shouted no to get their attention. Tara stalked off but Zak jumped two feet sideward in fright. I also notice that he flinches sometimes when I do the hand signal for the sit command. He really is a bit of a mixed up doggy.


All was calm then until bed time and the "not my bed yours" from both dogs. We made sure that both were on a bed gave them cuddles and switched the light off and we had no problem over night.


High points: Zak will now sit and lie down, though not with a great deal of consistency.
He is very good with the cat.
He loves his snuggles.


Low points
Growling at us.
Alternating between being scared of Tara and wanting to boss her
around.



-- Edited by silverhippo at 22:04, 2006-08-07

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Day 2 - Wednesday 3rd August

This morning wasn’t great, although both dogs had behaved over night. When Graham went down stairs they started acting up a little, barking and snapping at each other. He shushed them, then slipped them out and went to work. When I came down they both tried to barge each other out of the way to have a fuss. I made Tara sit and made a fuss of her before doing the same with Zak. He then decided that he desperately needed out so I slipped him out which upset Tara. When I got back I sat on her bed for a while and made a fuss of her. I then ate my breakfast and fed the dogs. I put Tara's down and she started eating so I put Zak's down and she tried to eat that so I shoved her away and showed him it again. He then took a couple of mouthfuls, but Tara did the scary body language thing and he would not eat. He sloped off so I had to pick up his bowl to stop Tara eating it. I put the bowl at the other side of the room but he would still not eat and when he left Tara again tried to eat his food. I picked up both bowls as I was running out of time and they seemed more interested in fighting over food than eating it.. I tried to calm Zak down and noticed that his teeth were chattering so gave him a fuss for a while.


As they both pull I decided it was too soon to try and do the morning walk with both of them at once so I took Tara for a walk first - the walk went fine, same as usual. I then put the bin out and took Zak out quickly, just to the end of the road as there was not enough time left. When I got back Tara had had the can cover, fork and pan scourer off the surface, so I told her off and sent her to her bed, having had to drag her off Zak's bed first.


I then left them both with Kongs filled with pate and went to work feeling stressed and slightly depressed. I know that this will be a lot of work but I wish Tara felt happier with this as she is quite depressed by the situation at the moment. I want to get to the stage where she has a companion to play with rather than a dog that goes from scared of her to very aggressive to her.



Graham has just sent me an e-mail to say that his morning has been a bit chaotic as well. Before he got in they had behaved fine apart from stealing the knife I had used to get the pate out. They then went through the whole "desperate for attention" bit, so Graham fussed Tara then Zak. After that came a half-hearted dominance bit from Tara, then both of them collapsed, leaving Graham time to grab his breakfast. Next job for Graham was the vets visit we had arranged to get Zak vaccinated and his teeth looked at as they were a bit yucky. We had also noticed that he kept rubbing one eye as well. The vets were running late and took forever with Zak who does have something in his eye that they could not remove. We will have to use syringes to try and wash it out. He also needs a proper de-scale on his teeth and a medicated toothpaste - he's getting gum disease. He'll need an aesthetic for the de-scale, so we need to book him in at the vets again soon. We had also noticed that Zak's claws were very long and the vet clipped a couple of them but it turns out that mainly that's how long they're meant to be as he has naturally long claws. Seemingly he also squealed the vets down when he got his jab, though they did give him a treat afterwards.


Graham stopped off at Tesco on the way back from the vet and Zak was curled up on the driver's seat when he came back. Graham eventually got him back into the boot, but did get growled at a couple of times. Zak also shot out of the front door of the car when Graham got out, so I think that we will need to get a dog guard.



Two friendly waggy dogs greeted me when I got home and were reasonably behaved. We got dinner and fed them with little trouble, though Tara did manage to grab a small mouthful of his food before we managed to stop her. Having had a rest after dinner we all went for a walk to the community woodland. As we did not let Zak off the lead we decided to let them play in the garden. This turned into a bit of a problem. The both ran round and Tara was too rough and barged poor Zak against the patio wall while trying to fit through the same space at the same time as him and he ended up with a nasty scrub on his leg. It did appear to be an accident though. So we had to grab her to stop her chasing him and he came to me to make it better so I checked that it was not serious and gave him a hug. Graham put Tara indoors as she was not going to be gentle and we played with Zak in the garden. Whether it was the excitement of playing or the fright he got he got over the top and started charging Graham, and running round the garden like a mad thing, so we ignored him. He then decided to rush up to me and grab my arm so I crossed my arms and turned my back on him. The little pest then tried to nip my bottom, which made Graham laugh. Once he had calmed down we made him do some commands, sit, down and recalls until he could do a recall without getting worked up. So we experienced the behaviour we were expecting and dealt with it.



Later our neighbours came to visit; they look after Tara if we are out all day. Zak was very well behaved and made himself very popular. Tara on the other hand got over exited and bounced around licking faces and trying to sit on peoples knees. Not that the neighbours seem to mind.



When the neighbours left we cleaned out one of Zak's ears (I will do the other one tomorrow as he was a bit fidgety by the end of the first one). Yuk. We then did his eye with the stuff the vet had given us, basically a syringe and sterile water. I was amazed that Zak behaved so well, as Graham had to do this complicated manoeuvre that the vet had shown him that involved closing the eye and pushing so we could see the jell bit where the item was stuck. I then had to squirt the water into his eye in the hope of softening things so it could eventually work its way out. As Zak sat so still we appear to have managed to wash the thing out on the third squirt. I will have to double check tomorrow. Some treats later and it was time for last walks and bed.


High points:
Zak walks quite well on the lead
He comes straight to me when hurt
He will let me work on ears, eyes, etc with little trouble


Low points:
The grabbing my arm – though we were expecting this and dealt with it fine
Tara being too rough with him and not stopping when he got hurt



-- Edited by silverhippo at 22:09, 2006-08-07

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Day 3 - Thursday 4th August
(In which Graham takes a turn at writing the entry.)

Reading back over this, I notice how easy it is to focus on the negatives. Somehow the big events of the day seem to be the low points, whereas the long periods where the dogs slept peacefully, or had quiet fusses from me get overlooked. Despite what I ended up writing below, 95% of the time, Zak is a loving and friendly dog, and I'm glad to have him around.


The morning started much as usual. Both dogs rush to greet anyone coming through the door, worryingly enthusiastic. We need to break that habit – ignoring Tara till she calmed down worked before, but with Zak’s arrival she’s forgotten, of course. Persistence will pay off, I’m sure.


Otherwise, the morning was quiet, with both dogs sleeping till lunchtime. Claire’s early morning walk apparently is exhausting for them, even if it is just round the block. After I had lunch, I put biscuit back down for both dogs. Zak needed his bowl several feet from Tara’s before he would dare eat. Even then, she wolfed her own food, and tried to steal his. She left the food alone when told, but a minute later was trying again. After the third warning, I invoked our most dreaded punishment – a five minute time-out, shut in the toilet, followed by five minutes of being ignored.


When both dogs had eaten, and Tara calmed down, I took them for a longer walk. Half an hour each, one at a time. Not sure I’m brave enough to walk both at once until they’re a bit more obedient. On their own, both dogs walk pretty well. A little keen to see other dogs, perhaps, and to stop and sniff, but nothing worrying.


So far, the day had gone pretty well. By three they were getting restless again, and Zak hadn’t had much running exercise, so I let them both into the garden. This is a worrying moment – Tara is much more dominant in the garden, and Zak sprinting seems to set her off. To begin with, everything went fine. Tara pestered Zak a little, but obeyed commands to "Leave". They walked round together, sniffing and exploring. Even jogged a little. Soon, Tara collapsed in the shade of a tree, leaving Zak to play alone.


At this point, I decided to try a recall, and called Zak to me. He ran up, stopping just in front of me. But instead of sitting, he then bounced up, snapping and barking. I told him "no" and he ran off, circled round, and charged me. Tara decided this was her cue to join in, and charged at him. I called Tara off – amazingly she obeyed! – and got hold of Zak. I led him straight inside, and straight into the toilet. I also brought Tara in, and ignored her. While her behaviour wasn’t as bad, I do not want a dog thinking I need protected from another member of the household.


Zak seemed less upset by the time-out than by being ignored afterwards. He demanded attention. He poked at me. He climbed onto Tara’s bed, then my seat on the couch. When I’d released him from the toilet, I’d noticed a little blood on the floor, so didn’t want to do another time-out until I’d worked out what had happened. Instead, I took hold of his head, holding the loose flaps of skin , and shouted at him. Afterwards, I sent him to his bed. He went meekly, and lay there peacefully, while I went and fussed Tara. After ten minutes, I checked Zak’s feet – there was a small scrub on a back paw, presumably from running round the garden. Since he was now behaving, I fussed him, releasing him from his stay.



After dinner, we took our usual walk. A bit over halfway, Tara suddenly decided to initiate a dominance battle with Zak. As he was on the lead at the time, this was quite terrifying for him. Luckily, Claire swiftly had Zak under control, and I managed to get hold of Tara, who thanked me by trying to bite me. She went back on a short lead, and spent the rest of the walk behind Claire and Zak, who set the pace and explored anything they found interesting.


Unfortunately, I’m starting to notice a pattern. Punish one dog, and the other sees this as tacit support for their own dominance.


While Claire went for a well-deserved bath, I was left again to watch the doggies. A yelp from the sunroom had me scurrying through, to find Zak enthusiastically trying to mount Tara. In a sense this isn’t too worrying – they’re both snipped, and without her cooperation he can’t even reach – but not acceptable behaviour. I quickly separated them, and Zak went for another time out, while the bemused and terrified wolfie-cross hid behind me.


After Claire's bath came another potential problem - bathing Zak. He wasn't particularly dirty, but getting him used to regular cleans before he rolls in something just seems sensible. Getting Zak upstairs was straight forward - open the door, and he rushed to explore somewhere new. Getting him in the bath was a little more difficult. Like most dogs, he won't jump in, and needed lifted. I'm used to getting Tara into the bath - by comparison Zak seems almost weightless.


I don't think Zak exactly likes baths, but he tolerated everything. He just sat there while we removed his collar, washed, rinsed, and dried him. Tara normally liked to scoff treats while being washed, whereas Zak ignored everything, with a sort of weary expression, that seemed to say "if I don't fuss, they'll finish quicker".


Unfortunately, Zak's tolerance did not extend to rinsing out his eye (which still contains the bit of something) or cleaning his other ear. The ear involved a bit of gentle restrain and much praise, and was over fairly quickly. Flushing out his eye soon began to stress him, and we didn't manage as thorough a job as we would have liked. I've a bad feeling the eye will need another vet trip and a sedative before it's over.


High Points: Getting on with jobs, while doggies sleep around me.
Snuggles.
How good Zak is in a bath.


Low Points: The ongoing eye problem.
Dogs not yet working out their places in the hierarchy.
Having to pull out the "big gun" punishments.



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Day 4 - Friday 5th August

What a rushed morning today as the car decided to seriously break last night (the abs brakes have gone wrong). I had to drive Graham to work and then rush back to sort the dogs before going to work myself. Again they had behaved well over night but were a bit pushy with each other for attention in the morning. Feeding them went fine this morning and they both ate from their own bowls. When I went to the bathroom though they decided to have an argument, when I opened the door Zak shot upstairs so I chased him back down and when he got to the bottom Tara had a go at him so I put her in the downstairs loo. The loo is our dog timeout room, nothing of interest in there once I have removed the loo roll. Zak had gone back up stairs and did not want to come down. He thought about having a go at me, I suspect he was scared that Tara was still waiting at the bottom of the stairs. I calmed him down and he went down stairs fine. I then let her out and took him for a walk first, this was a mistake. He pooped and when we had put it in the bin he started chewing the lead (I was using our rope one). This time he kept at it and growled at me when I told him to leave so I had to grab his collar and instead of the walk round the block he got taken home - he may have been doing this as walking back to the bin made him think that we were going home. Or it may have been a case of getting the walk before Tara implied a special privilege and higher status.


I then took Tara, who walked fine apart from when she saw Sam her collie friend; she tried to chew the lead but stopped when told.


When I got her back in he pestered and she would not sit to have the lead taken off so I stopped her doing anything till she sat, which she did eventually.


When I let her off the both started the dominance thing, as it wasn't too dangerous I just let them. Tara was the one being pushy, but in a throw her weight around way. Zak did have a few growl snaps at her but it ended when she was too tired to push it any further and he didn't want to push it in the first place.


I ignored both of them for 5 minutes while in the room and then made them sit on their beds while I put pâté in the kongs for when they were being left.


Zak really is a mixed up dog he spends some of his time being so scared that his teeth chatter. Reviewing the times that he growls it would appear to coincide with being frightened or being told off (so maybe he is frightened that we will hurt him for being bad).



Graham says that he thinks that a lot of Zak’s problems are fear based. Both dogs were peacefully wandering in the garden and Tara then laid down so Graham decided to do a recall and called Zak at which point Zak charged at Graham stopping before he reached him. Tara decided to take this as an invitation to join in and charged at Zak. Graham called her off and she left him alone so Graham made a second attempt at the recall then Zak ran away from Graham and tried to squeeze through the bars of our gate. When Graham got up to him Zak looked very scared, he was shaking and his teeth were chattering. So Graham made a fuss of him until he calmed down.



The worst point for me today was on our usual after dinner walk. As Zak gets walked on the lead I decided that we would have a little run. Zak and I started at a jog and then ran, not that fast I hold him up loads. Tara somehow took exception to this and decided to go for him. He of course retaliated. I reeled him in and stood over him so Tara couldn’t get at him while Graham grabbed her and made her do the rest of the walk on the lead. Not ideal given this is the second time she has done this.



Zak came with toys. Two of these were squeaky toys, not something we have bought for Tara. As there were two we let them both have one to play with. Zak quietly chewed at one corner not really knowing what it was for. Tara on the other hand drove us up the wall with constant squeaking. It got so bad that in order to get peace and quiet we gave them both rawhide chews. I also made sure to make a fuss and touch Zak’s head while he was eating it to get him out of the growling when he has high value food or treats.



This evening my sister and partner came over to visit Zak, both dogs really loved the attention. And they both seemed much more settled afterwards. Fiona and Andy brought great treats (some for the cat as well so he did not feel left out). They spent loads of time making a fuss of both dogs and Zak loved it.



Eye washing did not go as well tonight as Zak has decided to curl a lip and growl at us when we try and wash his eye now. We persevered though and got it washed without getting bitten, not sure whether this is doing any good at all though.


High Points:
How friendly and affectionate Zak is most of the time.
Being able to touch his head while he is eating.


Low Points:
Growling and chewing the lead on the morning walk.
The ongoing eye problem, and the problem that he is getting worse about having it sorted.
Tara using the fact that he is on the lead to initiate aggressive/dominant behaviour.



-- Edited by silverhippo at 22:03, 2006-08-08

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Gosh! sounds like youv'e got your hands full


Hopefully the two of them will sort out their differences soon and you will get some peace. He is such a stunning looking dog and once his training is sorted out im sure he'll be a lovely dog. After all the training you put in you will have transformed him and wanna keep him



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Gosh! sounds like youv'e got your hands full





We did know what we were getting our selves into.  Hopefully we will get everthing sorted.



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Day 5 - Saturday 6th August
We got up this morning to find that Tara appears to be under the weather and had not lasted the night with a runny bum. Yuk. Not that it seems to have put her off her food.


This morning we decided to walk at Beecraigs - one of the quieter, out of the way walks. So, time to let Zak off the lead and see how good his recall outside the garden is. The answer is not very good. He did not want to go too far away from us so it wasn’t too much of a problem. He had a run around until he ran over what I suspect to him looked like a grassy bank but it turned out to be a ditch. He ended up on his back wondering what had happened. After scrambling out he ran to me for comfort and I checked him over. Not a scratch so just a fright. I did put him back on the lead at this point.


Later we had another incident of Tara thinking that she might have a go at him while he is on the lead and she isn’t. Again we dealt with it and she did the rest of the walk on the lead as well.


Later it was time to drive over to Grahams parents to celebrate his Dad's 60th birthday. The visit was good with both dogs generally behaving well. Zak was very popular with the whole family, especially Graham's sister and her two children Hazel and Ethan. The only incident we had was after dinner. Graham had given both the dogs rawhide chews but Tara had ignored hers and stolen Zak's. Zak refused to eat Tara's, so to make Zak feel better Graham gave him a pig's ear. Zak was a bit growly while eating the pig's ear when the children came near, so Graham also did the stroke him while eating it and take it away and give it back. He had done this a couple of times when Ethan started talking loudly to Graham and Zak growled. Graham put a hand down to him to stop this and got bitten. I was called through to find graham holding the pig's ear trying to not get blood on the carpet. Zak had caught him on the thumb just above the joint and it was a deep cut. Zak had instantly reverted back to nice friendly dog and really surprisingly the kids were not in the least bit worried about all of this.


Tara got the rest of the pigs ear as I wasn’t going to give it back to Zak when he had growled at Ethan and bitten Graham over it. We need to be careful when Zak has what he sees as high value treats.


High Points:
Zak was great with the whole family.

Low Points:
Biting Graham.



-- Edited by silverhippo at 22:20, 2006-08-08

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Day 6 - Sunday 7th August

Same thing again with Tara being ill over night. This is getting worrying as she is showing no other signs of a tummy bug so it may be stress as she has been looking a bit depressed over the last couple of days. Not sure what to do at this point apart from to make sure that she only gets bland food today in case it is too many treats that is causing this. We have had this happen to her before when we fed her too many high protein treats and we do know that someone has helped themselves to some sugar coated jelly sweets and sucked the sugar off.



We decided that as Tara is looking fine and it does not seem to be contagious so we will go to the GAL Strathclyde park walk. Despite the strange weather we all had a good time. Zak is very friendly and made himself very popular. I suspect that given how angelic he was no one will believe that he is a problem dog.



After the walk we have to do some gardening as the hedges are looking a bit overgrown. It is not going very fast as we have to keep an eye that the dogs don't play too rough.



Time to have another go at Zak's eye. He is getting worse about letting us do this and the thing is still there. We manage to get the solution in but I would have liked to have a better look to see if this is doing any good. He does seem to stop rubbing at is for awhile after so it does provide a bit of relief.


High Points:
Lots of people on the GAL walk.
Things are a bit calmer with the dogs.


Low Points:
Tara being ill for another day.



-- Edited by silverhippo at 12:07, 2006-08-09

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Sounds like you are working hard to help Zak become the perfect dog, well done for taking on a foster boy who needs a bit of fine-tuning. We had a very similar food related problem with one of my dogs who guarded her food and would snarl and snap if she thought you were going near her bowl / treat.

I hope you don't mind but thought I would pass on one of the best bits of advice I was given in relation to this problem which was to change her expectations of what happened if a human came near her when eating. We did this initially by portioning up her meal and putting a small portion into her bowl letting her eat it and just as she was finishing adding the next in. We did this over the course of a week or so then gradually started to add the next portion while she was eating the last. You have to be careful and watch for signs that the dog isn't happy with your approach which can be anything from slight stiffening of the body to growling or snapping, if you push too far to fast you might get bitten. After a while we would put her full portion down but add a special treat like a bit of chicken while she was eating. Once the dog is comfortable with the first stage move on to the next. We did a similar thing with chews and would offer her something really yummy like a bit of cheese or sausage while she was eating the chew, we would let her take the treat and most importantly not try to take her chew off her while we did it. Don't push him too far too fast by putting your hand right up to him while chewing, you could initially just throw it next to him and build up from there.

Effectively you are conditioning the dog to expect something good when you approach him / her while eating which will evetually give the possiblility in an emergency to remove something you don't want them to have from their gob with far less risk of being snapped at or bitten. If you take the chew or treat from the dog when you approach all you are doing is reinforcing the anxiety that the food will be taken from them and increasing the guarding behaviour and the likelyhood of being bitten.

Obviously this is the advise that was given to us for our dog and Zak may be different but Indy is now totally relaxed when being fed and will happily lie beside us and be stroked even when she has a high value treat like a real bone.

I know you will be getting lots of good advice from the GAL team and look forward to hearing how Zak progresses.

-- Edited by Jade at 10:44, 2006-08-09

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Thanks Jade this seems like a very usefull bit of advice. We will give this a try.

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What a diary!!...


I thought I'd fill you guys in on Zak, I think to put a little perspective on this very troubled unique dog.


We were contacted by Zak's original owners in October 2005 who wanted to surrender him to us, reason was he'd grown so big they just didn't want him anymore, this is what they originally told me about him -


Been a pet since 7 weeks old, adopted from PADS, good temprament, used to live with a male collie, currently lives with 2 cats and a kitten, gets excited at times when playing, can be left alone for 5 hours, bit of a coward, scared of other dogs.


Certainly makes interesting reading now!...Following a meeting with a new family who'd went through the GAL adoption process Zak was adopted by them, his journey was just about to begin, I'll briefly detail it here, it's not pretty reading -



  • Adopted by new family - returned to GAL after 12 hours for allegedly biting.

  • Went to temporary foster home for 3 days (he was great there!)

  • Went to a 'permanent' foster home - returned to GAL after 22 hours as he was a 'handful'

  • Went to next  'permanent' foster home - returned to GAL after 90 minutes as he was a 'handful'

  • Then spent some time in our kennels..

  • Then to next 'permanent' foster home - lasted a couple of week but returned as the other dogs wouldn't accept him.

  • Next to a permanent home but returned after 48 hours for attacking someone.

So that was Zak's story, lets rewind for a bit now, he was adopted as a 7 week old pup, given no training, no socialisation and probably not much else either, this moulded Zak into the mixed up little kid that he is.


I was intending here to write a big long post about him but I'm figuring the above says it all, I think the bottom line here is Zak would have been PTS a long time ago, a dog with as many unique problems is, in most rescue organisations book, an unhomeable dog. GAL don't put dogs to sleep so there Zak was in our kennels for months and me sat here night after night praying for that 'one' home to come along.


Claire and Graham have a huge task ahead, a unique dog and some difficult times ahead, but also some great fun times as underneath all the troubles Zak really is a wonderful, intellegent, delightful dog.



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Well done, Claire and Graham, for fostering Zak! And for providing us with such a good diary of how both of you and Tara are getting along with him. I do hope it all works out - he sounds such a crazy mixed up kid who needs to learn right from wrong. I also hope that Tara gets better soon. Hope to see you soon - must've missed you at the Strathclyde Park Walk!


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It's been really good to read the diary, and Dave's post helps to try and understand where poor Zak is coming from!  It also says a great deal for Claire and Graham, and their perserverance, and their dedication to doing the right things for Zak e.g. his sore eye!  The world must seem exciting, strange and frightening for Zak at the minute, given his background, so good on Claire and Graham & Tara for giving him his chance.

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Well done Claire and Graham, it takes people with really big hearts and a lot of love for dogs to take on one with a history like Zak's. He has been through so much that i really hope you can make a difference to this big boys life, you certainly have my admiration for trying.


I can just imagine the great pleasure and pride you will feel with even the smallest progress. Good luck with him, i look forward to reading more of your diaries.



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Day 7 - Monday 8th August
Tara has been ill again this morning so I am going to take the day off work. This should also sort the car problem as Graham is starting a new job.

Zak has stolen his first bit of food this morning. As Graham went out in a rush he left a slice of toast on the surface in the kitchen. I heard a clatter of claws as a dog landed on the floor and went to investigate to find that Zak had helped himself. He has dropped it when told to though and I will feed it to both dogs later.

As neither of the dogs has much energy I thought I would do some gardening and let them lay in the garden. They keep playing too rough and have both had timeouts.



It is now 11 am and I had given up on the garden and about to take a nap but Graham is back from work (it is a bank holiday so after his induction there was nothing to do). The plan is to do some more gardening and then have lunch. The dogs on the other hand have other plans. They both ran full speed onto the patio. This time Tara was the one who collided with the wall and has bashed her leg. I have looked at it and she has a small scrub and a large bruise. Both dogs have been calmed down and I think that we will go straight to having lunch.



This afternoon has been one of the best yet.

We were worried about the continual dominance battles, rough play and the fact that Tara is looking quite depressed. I still think that it may be stress that is causing the upset tummy. If nothing else Zak is taking advantage of it and is on her bed in the morning when we come down.

With her getting hurt this morning we have made a decision to give her some extra privileges so that she feels that she is not losing out. We currently don’t allow pets on sofas but have decided that Tara will be allowed on the one in the sun room. We have put a blanket on it and encouraged her on. She seems very pleased with this new turn of events. Zak has not been allowed on it and this seems to have temporarily solved the agro problem. We are going to also buy another dog bed for Zak so he has one that was not previously Tara's

Now time to take the dogs for a walk. We need to go to the pet shop as I spotted a flea on Zak and we are now out of flea spray. So a trip to the Linlithgow pet shop, Argos for the dog bed and a walk round the loch seems like a good idea.



While in the pet shop I spotted that they have large roasted shin bones. I was told that these are good for cleaning doggy teeth so got one each for the dogs. You should have seen the looks on their faces when I picked them up.

Next a walk round the loch, with both dogs behaving very well. Tara was off the lead and did not have a go at Zak, did her recalls well and was very good at keeping out of the way of other people. Zak walked well on the lead and seemed to enjoy the walk even if he did find it a bit tiring.

Once back at the house the dogs were given the bones.


This is huge mummy, what do I do with this.


Maybe I will try like this.


Tara says this is how to do it.


I see now I get my whole mouth round and chew.


I can do that one as well and even bite whole bits off.

Peace in the garden to do the hedges. The dogs have even looked at each others bones without any agro. No problem taking the bones back later either.



Teeth cleaning time for Zak, we have the medicated toothpaste that the vet has given us and the once a week gel that we got at the pet shop.


First attempt is with the toothpaste and the funny shaped toothbrush. I can see that we are not getting very far with this as I get growled at every time I put it near his mouth. So far I have done one canine and he has his mouth clamped shut and curls a lip when I even put a hand down to his mouth. After a bit of calming and treat feeding I decide to try the gel as it says to get it along the gum line and the dog licking will get it over the teeth. It also has a long nozzle so maybe I can get this in easier. Two teeth later and it is back to the growling. So I try Tara to give him time to calm down, she doesn’t like it either but just runs away. Once Zak is calm again I try a new tactic getting him to lay on the rug and making a fuss of him. I keep fussing his face and running his lip up to expose his teeth. This seems to bother him much less and not growling or lip curling so a bit of gel on a finger and he has no idea that it has just been done. I used the same trick for the other teeth.

So all in all a day that gives me hope that we might be getting somewhere and that we can have peace.

High Points:
Peace in the garden
Finding a way to do the teeth cleaning as he so desperately needs it.

Low Points:
Tara being ill for another day.
Tara getting hurt.


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Day 8 – Tuesday 9th August
Not a lot to report today. Tara is better so is feeling a lot happier. There was some rough play but not as much as we have had. We had one dominance battle that ended as soon as Tara went on the couch, so letting her have this extra privilege seems to be working somewhat.



After work Sarah came round to complete the next stage on the corset I am teaching her to make. I picked her up from the station and the dogs went insane when we came in the door, both demanding attention first and trying to jump up (Sarah is used to dogs so she ignored them when they did this). We got them calmed down for a proper fuss quite quickly. It is still disappointing that Tara who had learned not to jump up is now doing so again, though I think that she will stop this when she realises that she does get as much of a fuss even with Zak there. There was a bit of posturing and showing off between the dogs but nothing to worry about. Poor Zak did not understand this person who was happy to sit on the kitchen floor eating pizza and not feeding him (Sara was brought up to not feed her food to the dogs). He was very good though and did not try and steal any.



Graham took them out for a walk while we got on with the sewing. Tara only got a short walk as she was annoyed that we had not all gone and started pulling and chewing at her lead. Zak on the other hand behaved very well. He doesn’t really understand large rolls of fabric on the floor though. When he came back from the walk he jumped into the middle of the fabric and wanted to lay down. Then he put his foot on the roll and nearly fell flat on his face, all quite amusing and no harm done.

High Points:
Tara being better.
How friendly Zak is with new people.

Low Points:
Tara reverting a bit in training due to Zak being there.


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What a wonderful opportunity for Zak to be with such dedicated people to help him over his problems.  Reading the diary is addictive so thank you for that.


Here's wishing you all the luck you need to help him, I'm sure it'll be worth it in the end, xx



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  While in the pet shop I spotted that they have large roasted shin bones. I was told that these are good for cleaning doggy teeth so got one each for the dogs.


I bet that helped Tara's upset stomach!

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silverhippo wrote:


  While in the pet shop I spotted that they have large roasted shin bones. I was told that these are good for cleaning doggy teeth so got one each for the dogs.


I bet that helped Tara's upset stomach!




In truth we only let them gnaw the bones for a while and I didn't let Tara chew up the bits she had off it (all saved in a bag for another day).  As she was eating fine, I still think that it was stress based.  It had cleared up by the next day.



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It's great to hear that you're helping Zak, and sounds like progress is being made already. He sounds a very scared, confused wee lad, and little wonder if he's been bounced around like an unwanted parcel the whole of his life. I could weep, I really could. I wish you all the luck in the world and will be reading his foster diary with interest.

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It's so good to hear that the gorgeous Zak is making progress. We fostered him for 3 days just after Christmas but Jamie did not take to him at all...Gambol and Keera were fine with him. He is such a lovable boy but very mixed up. I'm so glad you're giving him the chance,time and effort to ensure he develops into the super dog I know he can be.


Keep up the diary...it makes fantastic reading!


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I'm really enjoying your diary of Zak's new experiences. It just shows the work that is put in with some of the more challenging dogs to help them live a normal life.
It seems he's making progress every day and you are both so committed to putting in the work he requires. I'm sure you will find it really rewarding seeing him change. Can't wait for the next instalment!!

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Keep up the good work Graham and Claire , it is very good of you both to take on Zak with all the problems that he has, but by the sound of your well kept diary you are doing an excellant job and I am sure that in time all the hard work you are doing with start to show through. I wish you all the best and hugs to Tara and Zak. Nora



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Day 9 – Wednesday 10th August
Happy dogs this morning, but Tara misbehaved a bit for Graham in the afternoon, pulling and chewing on the lead.



After dinner tonight I gave Jade's idea a try. As we were going out I gave the dogs pigs ears. I then offered Zak a pate ball (just pate rolled between the fingers, the dogs love this). As he took the ball I removed the pigs ear and then gave it back. I got a small lip curl but nothing else. I also left them with pate stuffed kongs to keep them occupied



A great night for us visiting friends who are up for the festival, but we were back quite late. In the mean time someone (I guess Tara as she has done this several times before) had started to pull the stuffing out of the corner of her bed. There was hardly any, which makes me thankful as I remember the times we have come back to find the whole kitchen covered in bed stuffing. I hope that Zak does not try this one.


High Points:
Jade's idea worked.
Our friends want to visit to see the dogs.


Low Points:
Bed unstuffing.



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Day 10 – Thursday 11th August
This morning the dogs were very boisterous, possibly because we left hem last night. Zak is growing more confident and definitely has a passion for toast as he has managed to grab the bit that Graham had saved to give the dogs. Tara would not go right to the back of the surface to steal something (unless left on her own for a long while) Zak on the other hand will, though so far only if it is toast. He did let go on command, he obviously hasn't learnt the trick of swallowing it quick. We gave all the toast to Tara, in case giving any Zak encouraged future thieving.


One encouraging thing is the doggy sit. The dogs were playing rough in the middle of the kitchen and I wanted to distract them so I got a ****tail sausage from the fridge and said sit. Both dogs instantly sat at my feet despite being distracted. It was one of those moments where stomachs had commanded the dogs' bums to hit the floor before the dogs thought about it.


The only problem this morning is how much they are pulling on the lead. This is sorted by using the lead harness style on both of them. Although that works fine it feels like losing. I would be happier if they walked well without having to resort to that.



Graham has reported that when he got home from work (at lunch time) the dogs had re arranged the beds but there was no stuffing on the floor. Both of them have been behaving well for him.



I have just noticed that there are several missed calls and voice mails on my mobile phone. Two of them are from GAL people: one from Linda about volunteering at the GALA and one from Carole to follow up her call last week to see how we were getting on with Zak. As I was at work I e-mailed Graham the details to call. He chatted to Carole for around half an hour, and we now have a few more suggestions of things to try.



After dinner we had a nice walk without too many problems. As Carole had mentioned getting Zak interested in toys we took him into the garden to play with a kong on a rope. He loves the idea of fetch but is not very good at actually collecting the toy. He became very excited and started charging round the garden in ever decreasing circles and then running into us. As there was no growling just full speed running and a bit of jumping up at Graham we each time ignored it until he had calmed down. Once he was tired we tried Carole's advice and when he had the toy we said leave and offered him a treat (a gravy bone) and took the toy away. He was praised and the toy returned. We did this a couple of times. This should get him used to having things taken away, being praised for it, and that he does get them back.



After playing I went for a bath. Today is the first day I have had doubts about taking Zak on. It doesn’t help that I had a bad day at work, but laying in the bath I did wonder if I it was the best thing for Tara as sometimes she is taking it badly. Also whether we are doing the right thing with Zak, if things will get better. I am also worried in case there are more problems, like what will he do the first time we let him off the lead with other people around. Maybe we will never be able to do this. Not ideal thoughts really. I can take comfort from the fact that we have the support of GAL and some of the things we are doing are showing progress. In a lot of ways he is not as bad as we expected.



This evening I decided that we needed to have another go at cleaning his teeth. This time using the finger with gel method I managed to do his whole mouth without a single growl or curled lip.


High Points:
Teeth cleaning with no problems
Great sit when distracted

Low Points:
Worrying about things
Zak's mad capers when playing in the garden



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Hi, Claire - if it's any comfort to you, when we first got Harry we doubted whether we'd done the right thing because we were so worried that we'd ruined Pearly's life. It was very hard being hands-off with her and Harry and keeping things a bit cooler with them for the first few weeks until they'd sorted out their pecking order amongst themselves. Pearly seemed morose and we just wanted to comfort her. Now, we'd never be without both of them together. The definitely enjoy each other's company and get excited to see each other if they've been apart.

Keep up the good work! It was great to see you at the GALa yesterday. Zak is a gorgeous boy and Tara is magnificent. Keep on taking all the advice you get from GAL and don't fret. You're doing great!

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ps: meant to say, Harry will nick my toast out of the toaster if given half a chance!

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And - stealing from kitchen counters is perfectly normal, as is hurtling around the garden like a maniac.


There are many threads on the forum about the things dogs have stolen in their new homes - some hilarious and some irritating/frustrating - learning not to put their feet on the kitchen counters is something they all have to go through.  I suppose the surprising thing about Zak is that he did come from a home, but then he had obviously had no training whatsoever.


As for racing round in the garden at top speed - the first time we let Sim off in the garden it took me completely by surprise (our first gh) and I was absolutely convinced he would kill himself or at the very least break both his front legs by flying off a wall.  But - he did neither - he cut his leg, which is now a very normal occurrence, and kn*ckered himself in a few hair raising minutes!  I then thought he was going to have a heart attack because his sides were heaving - also normal! 



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And - stealing from kitchen counters is perfectly normal, as is hurtling around the garden like a maniac.





Hi Lesley

We are used to the stealing, Tara can reach most things on surfaces without putting her feet up so we are normally very good at putting things out of reach. The back of surfaces used to be fine as she is too lazy to put her feet up to get something. Zak on the other hand will put his feet up to reach. The more confident he is about being with us the more he seems to do this. We will just have to watch what we leave out and it is nice to see that he is starting to feel at home enough to do these things.

The running is difficult to explain without being seen. He runs around daft lots of the time, playing, chasing Tara, being chased by Tara. This also results in bumps and scratches and is very normal. The manic running is somehow different you can tell that it is not the normal running and I have only ever seen it in problem dogs. It is like they are winding themselves up to have a go. It is often the first warning that he is going to intentionally charge you. Not sure whether I have explained that well enough to show the difference but there is one.

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Biscuit often runs in a frenzy in the garden (mostly after his long walk) and it defo winds him up.  He runs in wide circles, sometimes with his bottom tucked under , like a prawn.  As he passes you, he gives quite a fearsome bark, and will sometimes escalate into jumping with mouth open to bite.  We stand our ground quietly, but if he is winding himself up or trying to use his mouth, we just turn our backs and walk into the house.  Biscuit hates exclusion, and he usually stops immediately we leave the scene.  We see him as definitely challenging us to be "physical" with him i.e. chase me RIGHT now, cos I say so.  We do play chases in the garden with him, but he knows it's on our terms and rules, and if we don't like how he is playing, we let him know by showing our backs and walking.


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